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tesolchina 发表于 2007-12-17 17:27

Issue难题讨论(题义、思路、例证)

欢迎大家回帖提出自己手头上棘手的issue,并参与讨论。我们会从题义、思路和例证三方面讨论。::81
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azalea1982 发表于 2007-12-19 16:31

我感觉issue36难写,泛泛写容易,不容易出彩

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[b][size=3][font=Tahoma][color=#8b0000]36.The greatness of individuals can be decided only by those who live after them, not by their contemporaries. [18]'l d'Wc3JA
[size=12pt]36. [/size][/color][/font][/size][font=SimSun][color=#8b0000][size=12pt]一个人是否伟大只能由后人评定,而非由同时代的人。[/size][/color][/font][/b]
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9U0l \)G{$x!I(wG [b][font=宋体][size=3][color=#8b0000]个人感觉这个难写,大家所在做的不过是举几个哥白你,爱因斯坦,凡高等不被当时社会认同的例子,然后再举盖茨,姚明等被社会认同的例子,最后得出结论说,有的人被当前认同,有的人被后人认同。[/color][/size][/font][/b]
{js/op\_ [font=宋体][size=3][color=#8b0000][b]大家都这样写,会不会判雷同哦。(我当然也是这样写的,最初想尝试证明在不同领域如政治,经济,科研,艺术。体育等领域的情况各不相同,却发现这样做太复杂了,没有千把字说不清,就放弃了)[/b][/color][/size][/font]
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tesolchina 发表于 2007-12-21 21:14

只要你用自己的话来写,一般不会雷同。分领域讨论是一个不错的策略。可以简单分为科技和人文两块。科技方面的成就可谓立杆见影,例子俯首皆是。像诺贝尔奖大部分都是颁给科技上有突出贡献的人。0[p+uw"p{wX
而人文方面的成就就需要较长时间的验证。例如经典的文学作品大多经历时间的洗礼。还有一些社会理论如马克思主义到后世来评价就会发现很多问题。  
8Es8k/K.Z@$DfH[ 你也可以说诺贝尔文学奖和和平奖的局限性,很多时候会受当时人的政治取向所影响。)^w K e*@RI;\ L-xu
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还有一个另类的解题方案就是将greatness曲解一下 ordinary people can also become great by doing ordinary things successfully or faithfully, for example, becoming a great mother or a great teacher.

ccbban 发表于 2007-12-25 14:48

ISSUE41

[font=Verdana][size=10pt]41"Such nonmainstream areas of inquiry as astrology, fortune-telling, and psychic and paranormal pursuits play a vital role in society by satisfying human needs that are not addressed by mainstream science." [/size][/font]
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dainytracy 发表于 2007-12-29 01:33

为什么没什么人留言呢???

tesolchina 发表于 2008-1-1 23:41

回复 4# ccbban 的贴子

we need to be aware that science is just one systematic way to investigate and understand the world.  besides the solution provided by scientists, we have other sources to find help and support.  astrology, fortune-telling, and psychic and paranormal pursuits  are such examples.  -wGf+q"X0Z
the issue is difficult because the non-mainstream ways of inquiry are unfamiliar to us.

alpha04 发表于 2008-1-3 21:10

回复 6# tesolchina 的贴子

请问哪里有具体每个分析issue 的题目的帖子,自己看还是不知道如何下手::z1

alpha04 发表于 2008-1-3 21:10

回复 6# tesolchina 的贴子

请问哪里有具体每个分析issue 的题目的帖子,自己看还是不知道如何下手::z1

tesolchina 发表于 2008-1-6 00:19

回复 8# alpha04 的贴子

市面上孙远、韦晓亮的书都提供了简单的提纲  要深入的分析只能靠自己琢磨了

Arecher 发表于 2008-1-7 22:15

感觉作文的语言上如果想做到纯正比有个不错的思路更难

SEA-GULL 发表于 2008-1-10 13:28

有不会的就上来问了,大家多罩着我点啊::z3

fibundle 发表于 2008-1-11 22:09

分领域讨论can be used to应急. ^4|V v(BJ+]E
If you have enough time to prepare, don't use this structure in general.
^BDNC!H many this kind of essay is too shallow.

ferata 发表于 2008-1-15 20:44

176. "The function of science is to reassure; the purpose of art is to upset. Therein lies the value of each.")H6ZP/a1j a
reassure和upset是表示解惑和创新,还是安心和表达不安呢?

wylk 发表于 2008-1-17 14:00

Thanks

tesolchina 发表于 2008-1-18 21:57

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176. "The function of science is to reassure; the purpose of art is to upset. Therein lies the value of each."
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F d'I6bGG you are encouraged to look up a good dictionary for the definition of these two words, which are crucial for analyzing the issue.

cowboy5628 发表于 2008-1-21 00:48

upset在这里我看的书里面有一种解释叫做“颠覆”

m2zhy 发表于 2008-1-23 22:59

[color=darkred]Issue 47"Society does not place enough emphasis on the intellect---that is, on reasoning and other cognitive skills."[/color]
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[size=4][color=blue][b]问题1:[/b][/color][/size]原题只是在说intellect,并没有提到emotion,[size=3][color=red]为什么要把emotion扯进来呢?[/color][/size]难道就是因为emotion是non-intellect吗?[size=3][color=red]为什么不能只从intellect出发写?[/color][/size]比如只讨论重视和不重视intellect会带来什么结果。可是,如果这样的话,[size=3][color=red]是不是又会陷入“论述不完整”的陷阱了呢?[/color][/size]
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_[Dh+z J#BD [color=darkslategray]这道题想了很久,始终没能想明白,现在还是很迷糊。[/color]::82  [color=darkslategray]希望能得到帮助解惑。[/color](P"hU2\9C#zCz"a
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josiah0821 发表于 2008-1-24 11:06

回楼上的:kL1EQ`q
个人认为之所从从intellect和emotion两方面写,主要是大家比较公认的“智商”(IQ)和“情商”(EQ)是广义上的相反词。所以说到智力,一般人第一个反应都是emotion与其对应。
/F4zdxrF 至于是否可以只写emotion,我想ISSUE应该没有什么是必须要写的,只是看你在一方面论述的是否充分,而不只是空旷的大道理。我GRE上的是新东方修锐的课,他讲的是可以写成对比型的文章尽量写对比,这样可以使自己文章很丰满。;]v'TM/Y-r
PS:智力还包括观察、想象、记忆、思维、实践操作活动和适应环境等方面的能力。学教育心理学时老师说,(*^__^*) 嘻嘻……,我只记得这些,足够用啦

llmonica 发表于 2008-1-27 00:41

ISSUE17

ISSUR\E17怎么分析啊?大家给点意见,就是关于:法律有两种,一种公平,一种不公平,对待公平的法律,我们应该严格遵守它,但是更重要的是,都应该不遵守和对抗不公平的法律。请大家分析一下,我觉得它是个比较型的论证,可是看一些材料,说是问解型的,而且范文写得很像ARGUE,请大家分享一下应该怎么写[img]http://bbs.taisha.org/images/smilies/default/smile.gif[/img]o5z?!z+b
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chenxiaoyi 发表于 2008-1-27 11:04

162. “It is not the headline-making political events but the seldom-reported social transformations that have the most lasting significance.”这道题该怎么解啊,诸位大虾给点建议吧?谢谢!可不可以也从不同领域来分析呢?

tesolchina 发表于 2008-1-28 20:01

回复 20# chenxiaoyi 的贴子

可以举一个政治头条的例子,和一个社会变革作对比。我的观点是,头条新闻或许没有太多长远影响,不过媒体对社会变革的关注度也在提升。

lfztd 发表于 2008-1-29 11:37

回19楼  我也觉得北美有点象ARGU  但是这个问题如果不是那样写 很难入手啊 不止到你现在有没有更好的思路

haha776419 发表于 2008-1-31 16:33

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八维 发表于 2008-2-2 16:38

issue 4

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-s6NGA+h+_M'vy 4 "No field of study can advance significantly unless outsiders bring their knowledge and experience to that field of study." &Z)P:R}kT
任何领域要取得重大进展,都需要外领域者的知识和经验。
bQ%Zm3Bg-w 例子不会举!

xyz006008 发表于 2008-2-2 20:22

issue 23

Issue23: contemporary technology makes available many small peices of factual informantion.  这个前半句怎么翻译呢?有的翻译说 现代科技使获得大量细节信息成为可能 还有的说 科技提供的信息是由很多小的信息片断组成的…………好迷惑阿……我怎么觉得都不对呢?……  是不是应该是 科技让那些零碎的信息变得有用起来 会好一些? 请大家指点一下~ thanx~~

tbearzhang 发表于 2008-2-5 16:49

回复 24# 八维 的贴子

反面例子:(就是自己可以进步)I$d3k%Y7Qk3b
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而且我个人感觉某些学科早期的发展是完全由领域内的人完成的。Euclid---Geometry. Cauchy---Mathematics(a rational definition of infinity).
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tbearzhang 发表于 2008-2-5 16:51

回复 25# xyz006008 的贴子

我比较同意你最后提出的翻译。如果再改称“当代科技”就更好了。

tbearzhang 发表于 2008-2-5 16:54

Issue 130

"How children are socialized today determines the destiny of society. Unfortunately, we have not yet learned how to raise children who can help bring about a better society."Go7A0r)?Ny6E @
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能提供一些思路和例证吗?对社会学实在是一窍不通……

riversho 发表于 2008-2-7 16:23

"The arts (painting, music, literature, etc.) reveal the otherwise hidden ideas and impulses of a society."(131)&`Mie+R6O
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对艺术完全不了解。勉强挤出几个论点,却又没有例证。北美范文倒是洋洋洒洒天马行空,只是可资借鉴的不多。QYw:WZ#U

+@;~g R9rR2w 翻了下韦晓亮的书,这篇issue他居然连题干都翻译错,分析就更是一塌糊涂了。此外该书还有相当部分内容直接抄袭北美范文。后悔买这本书了......

fibundle 发表于 2008-2-7 22:39

回复 29# riversho 的贴子

Giving two concrete examples is enough.
MH*S#}c&C+@)@y 北美 give examples of Picasso, Dali and Pollock on painting. with so many words, how much information you can get? I don't know if the auther really understand one of these artist.b!R5F [^E&k
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SunShine1029 发表于 2008-2-8 22:28

问 一类题目的分析

Issue题目有很多题干都是“利多弊少”和“弊多利少”的结论,请问对于这种题目,是只需分析其各方面的利弊,还是也需要给出一个类似的明确利弊分量的结论呢?

sy19eee 发表于 2008-2-9 15:44

回复 31# SunShine1029 的贴子

看字数就可以明确了吧

ranshinish 发表于 2008-2-11 17:21

[font=Tahoma][size=3]The study of history has value only to the extent that it is relevant to our daily livesNG+~3k4y'd3Y
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xilin715 发表于 2008-2-13 23:32

28题Students should memorize facts only after they have studied the ideas, trends, and concepts that help explain those facts. Students who have learned only facts have learned very little.s,f$I*wIg`_ e.D&p
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感觉不好写, 不知道其中的facts是指什么呢?
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如果想写反面的应该怎么写啊? h qC!w+pa6OX,Xd
北美的逻辑感觉一点怪~

fibundle 发表于 2008-2-14 14:10

回复 34# xilin715 的贴子

There are many definitions of "facts", you can  discuss them seperately or emphasize one of them. 1\V!B X&y"v!Y,k
北美 use different meanings of "fact" in different places without clarification.
$jP't D mk That essay is also too verbose with repeating same statements many times.

ranshinish 发表于 2008-2-14 15:27

回复 34# xilin715 的贴子

我觉得facts应该是指实际应用和经验X0[X\9s:@%J X2A.IRJQ
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数学公式应该是concept吧,和idea对应

fibundle 发表于 2008-2-14 17:49

回复 36# ranshinish 的贴子

see MW  :  /W-c_:f?Y
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qNKsfN:Dez With this logic, 数学公式 is concept, while "information" of 数学公式 is fact.

Falcon_ysz 发表于 2008-2-14 20:59

issue47

我也问一下[color=black]Issue 47:"Society does not place enough emphasis on the intellect---that is, on reasoning and other cognitive skills."[/color]
#j%m(N7Sk6m [color=black]里面的society到底是个什么范围呢?泛泛而谈感觉心里没底,也不容易有统一的观点,看北美基本谈的是美国本土的情况,所以我想能不能明确地把讨论范围限定在中国?这样会不会对于阅卷员太陌生?哪位大侠指教一下J@[h/j!{;f G
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金家猫 发表于 2008-2-15 11:51

169 "Those who treat politics and morality as though they were separate realms fail to understand either the one or the other." f[Ve'^p8J7y)r-z
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winnerisdanny 发表于 2008-2-15 15:26

[size=9pt]issue54.History teaches us only one thing: knowing about the past cannot help people to make important decisions today.[/size]O Z6n:` l6N.o1g!t
[size=9pt]一看就是错的,但是issue是是非论证,要求论证该结论正确的地方,这个cannot与can完全对立,无法论证啊。[/size]@c3~dyd"i"^@
[size=9pt]像这种结论性的题目,到底应该如何下手,还有几天就考了,还请各位高手指点迷津,先谢过[/size]

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