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" }7 ?3 d2 I* o引用:. {* z& F* A' q, a7 j- f: L% a* Z15:02:46 Amy Are you free now?9 B5 J. T+ d4 o3 ^! p
15:05:14 Dacker would you please wait another 2 mins and I will have to finish an e-mail. # ~9 Z8 H9 ^3 [! Q# E2 L
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15:05:30 Amy OK！tell me when you are free.
0 t, \/ C: ^' `4 V15:07:40 Dacker I am terribly sorry about that! 1 g8 i. r2 ^4 d4 r1 p8 a2 _: h
, C5 w. d' t6 i' i* O6 d1 r/ h15:08:40 Amy never mind.
8 `3 X4 M' |% _- x15:08:53 Dacker Thanks!3 V8 ^. @' o( V
15:27:04 Dacker Hi! 0 O4 P4 b+ D8 _. m2 _; j1 h
3 z' @; w2 U$ `) i7 R15:27:37 Amy Hehe,are you free?
: r# G7 o6 w& ?& H15:28:13 Dacker Not really, but I decide to talk with you first! / B: F. I9 ^- M) Q- J! Y% f
15:28:22 Dacker anyway, I am not used to delaying4 V% @; D) [3 }3 A5 U4 r; [: ?
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15:28:51 Amy it does not matter at all.; ^3 d) b5 i& I8 F5 d
15:28:54 Dacker I am sorry , R: ?( Q0 W$ d% P* A, j; T
15:29:01 Dacker Can we start now? & A% W1 r- n/ D" y
15:29:01 Amy OK
$ k% H5 R1 d7 l15:29:10 Dacker Then ok
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# A. d4 ^& ^. [15:29:37 Amy I have read many posts that you written in our bbs , and I think you are very good .are you still studying in high school?
$ A5 h/ u4 W3 [- N7 s15:30:00 Dacker Really, yeah, I am at high school!
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9 a& V6 l( `# z4 V, U15:30:23 Amy Hehe , which class are you in?
5 f! q0 W! }& y _/ n: p& t15:30:36 Dacker I will be in Senior 3 ( q$ a+ D8 l. ~; c
* y. ]$ ^' I) k* Q! n7 n) b15:31:30 Amy O~hehe, you have no pressure for the entrance examination to the university because you have decided to read in American.6 h' \) |2 x& L4 Z
15:33:28 Dacker I don't think so. As I am still learning in school in summer, further more, I am sure that any colleges in US needs Chinese students with both the skills of a traditonal Chinese student- good score on the study and skills of an American guy- that is ability like leadership etc.
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. W* {; e2 S! X1 Q* @" p H15:36:57 Amy Ok! Best wishes for your success! in the BBS, I got to know that you have ever studied in America for some days as the exchange student
1 F- u( t6 F$ J15:37:12 Dacker yeah! 7 f2 C' [7 }; c8 E
15:37:23 Dacker I am astonished and delighted to hear that you know my experience* j* t% t- ^" s. r$ f4 ^1 G
15:37:33 Dacker You must google me a lot - T! @3 ^4 N' V& \9 o3 Z
# l/ a' |) T1 p J* h15:37:55 Amy Your English is so good.* W' r4 D7 U, K J3 @6 c
Hehe, yeah! I have read many posts in Taisha BBS- Z3 S; h, _* r2 S, C) [
15:38:18 Amy I am wondering your life abroad.( e4 o3 _# `9 h
15:39:00 Dacker My English is not that good, I use English just because I don't wanna my mother to know everything I am doing! * u6 e1 R$ `* M* B$ R
15:39:05 Dacker :D
' C9 f8 s5 T: Z4 }' E. P- k15:39:12 Dacker I am not a bad boy
# O' K0 }4 X3 b: b3 ~2 d15:39:16 Dacker :$
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$ {7 v# {% ^0 m7 N6 k+ T R) L9 O15:39:27 Amy haha2 `1 R+ i2 t# j0 e1 ^) p
15:40:25 Amy That’s a good idea! And study English in unison., e0 |% w# z: s+ L( j
15:40:31 Amy When you finished the TOEFL test and the SAT test?
U4 @, i8 l; t5 G, ]& J7 f15:41:30 Dacker I didn't finish them all, honestly. N2 ?8 I) h$ O4 S5 z
) o' W, Y! O! e# J- h/ X15:45:03 Amy Oh,hehe
$ @1 Z* C) A5 x15:45:46 Dacker To me, make a perfect application is the most important and prior thing!
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2 b& J7 {* u! F6 D% V, R/ z15:46:13 Amy I want to know your score in the TOEFL test in July 21, and the JJ is very good.- O5 I: g: E8 K+ K' B
15:46:29 Dacker I don't know!!! 4 z+ }, B; e5 l$ q+ r
15:46:40 Dacker We have to wait! - I R0 Q% Q% A: l' _
r# ?) ?# z! d/ b% v# r1 m2 F5 b15:46:53 Amy Oh, yes, the score is not promulgate, I’m sorry , the score must be very good.. u p$ O3 ^0 j/ o6 C1 G
15:47:04 Dacker Fine, ' B% L) Z7 L s7 E
15:47:25 Dacker My first reading is not very good, you can see that from the JJ # U& y- Q1 i8 Z' G
0 \! v6 V" {9 c8 c15:48:20 Amy I see you have idiographic idea in studying toefl, e.g. you emphasize straight improve the really English ability. Can you tell me the ways of the embedded English study?And which is your best from listening, speaking, reading, or writing? And how to improve?) K ?$ S5 r4 W5 g
15:49:28 Dacker Can I speak and you listen, I do have sth. to say about this topic and I have prepared it. " v8 k, J' l* V
7 X7 ]% P# N, q( k; p, o15:49:58 Amy OK! l" B7 N2 t4 Y. V0 y* l+ C
15:50:14 Dacker I am sorry to trouble you again
) t+ t4 M3 D- ?15:50:23 Amy never mind!
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5 z6 s) T- `' _( o5 L以下为音频内容，由amy整理。# t/ T! ^9 a* D2 Z
我打算从六个方面来谈, 想先说一下能力与考试之间的关系，听、说、读、写四个方面的我的一点小见解，最后一点就是有关JJ的问题( \, h" b) S$ Z) |$ @: O
第一个就是我刚才说过，太傻论坛上缺少一些对托福考试准备的系统性概念，不管是太傻还是新东方，他们都是把托福分开来看，托福从PBT到CBT到现在的IBT，一直希望把四种技巧联系在一起，所以如果我们还是把它们拆开来看，我们准备的效果一定会越来越减弱，其实ETS也是想减弱技巧类对托福考试的影响
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, \9 m, Z$ o5 T6 V0 j第一个就是说能力与托福之间的关系。太傻上的争论是托福考试的目的是能力还是考试，我认为托福考试对我的确有很大的帮助，确实提升了好多能力，把实力转换成分数才是最重要的，把成绩在短时间内提升很多是不可能的，所以做好扎实的基础是最重要的，比如说听力，你的听抄能到什么水平? 外交部的培养方式是每天早晨三个小时，听抄voa、bbc，所以托福考试也一定要点点滴滴踏踏实实的做起，包括词汇量，每次背完单词后再去看paper, textbook、magazine确实是很有帮助，还有, 无论是看《prison break》还是看《friend》都不是学习英语的好办法，最好的办法是TTC的The Teaching Company还有就是discovery，geography也很不错，学会在听完TTC后用口语来summarize professor’s points，所以一定要选准学术性的材料，这相当重要！5 ^5 T) Z1 i7 @& j, {+ i' r
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写作--我觉得写essay 和paper最重要
! R0 O3 u" W D6 l' a所以我觉得提高实力最重要，然后学习技巧，学习技巧的目的是把你的实力百分之百的展示出来
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下面从听、说、读、写四个方面来谈：& |4 w& R. N; \& |0 x8 k' p0 e* C
听力：
2 }; L6 |0 \+ y( E q; I1 S0 \" C要挖掘出自己的听力天赋，第一重要是听抄，听抄是一切的基础，因为听抄会把精力集中起来， 以达到最好的训练效果。
2 h' `3 y0 b5 J, h$ A准备听力最好的书是：3 X% j' e/ X& G6 D8 d
1、《the teaching company》在emule上面可以down，这本书最好的就是教授讲课质量极棒，我深深的理解，什么叫做the professor who teach extremely-well，这些教授非常棒9 u# D+ S' G( w: x8 C
2、Longman的蓝书，这本书的选材非常广泛，阶梯性难度，反复听抄这本书。这本书最大的弱点是pattern不好，所以可以通过学习Delta和Barron’s来补充。" i' s7 E9 |0 O2 I% P
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口语：% i! V2 ~6 q) _4 R
这部分中国的学习拿分很低，口语部分需要注意几点，首先美国最看重的是逻辑，而不是语言，句子不宜过长，但是结构要稍复杂一些，多用detail和example，其实口语考试中读的部分只是对一些概念的分析解释，不需要做笔记，听抄的过程也就是提高做笔记能力的过程。9 ?- i# I6 ? x
口语可以用机经来练。
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阅读：
/ _" |" w. O* u最重要的是背单词，个人认为最重要的是读textbook，很多人认为应该读magazine和newspaper，个人认为商业味太浓而无法做到学术化，所以不适合作为学习用资料。Textbook主要是读高中教材，推荐几本教材：美国高中很流行的历史教材《enduring vision》，psychology, English literature, social science+ ~5 b( C- Z- M# g
此部分单词是核心，然后重要的是语感。多练多做模考题
3 E& D1 w& f* a# C" {' }泰德的阅读教材Pattern 很不好，但选材和难度都值得一做" V* \/ X0 s# E& t: H7 s3 @3 I
\ j, r" [" s' q. Z写作：
- A5 ?2 ]5 M2 }) M北美生存之本，此部分还是强调逻辑。
4 S7 J, h( m8 K% _1 L9 Y/ e写作部分推荐的教材是新东方许轶老师写的《挑战托福满分》，这本书最大的特点就是提供了30篇范文，把中国学生普通熟悉的4.5分提高到了5分的文章拿出来修改6分的文章。
4 Q R2 h9 V$ R写作也要用到真题来复习4 o, `% e* f. F
! W" P, R, j' C% T6 G5 c如何看待机经：# X4 K+ e+ t* L/ k5 @% l' [
大家一定要摆脱机经，但是要整理好加试机经，要善于利用机经3 b# u' |; j3 i T$ s- c* @5 q 引用:和Dacker的访谈持续了近二个小时，非常愉快～Dacker在托福复习方面有着独特观点和想法！非常感谢Dacker的参与！
[ 本帖最后由 amy_na 于 2007-8-16 10:47 编辑 ]
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